christian domestic discipline testimonials

If you are currently living (or have lived) the Christian Domestic Discipline lifestyle and you would like to share how it has helped your marriage or relationship, please email your story and mention that you wish to share your experiences with other people. Take any instructional material on domestic discipline and youll notice two things : knowledge symmetry (the man and the woman must comprehensively discuss and understand every aspect of this lifestyle), and psychological sophistication : the many psychological effects of physical disciplining (which only is one aspect of the lifestyle) are presented at length to both the man and the woman. It feels right and the way it should be.It has made a difference in our lives in a big way. Meredith, learningdd.com, 3. his God-given authority and actually lead.. I got a terrible strapping, my behind was on fire when my husband put me in the corner. People practicing Domestic Discipline are typically very mature and proactive people who really think through these aspects of their relationship. And no, the experiences, however bad, do not nullify the word of God. When you wrote: You cannot find a single Bible verse that says that never married adult women must submit to a man because there is no such concept you had forgotten Numbers 30:3-5. I felt really sorry for the lady who got punished but I can tell you that she has learned her lesson and at Bible study she listens to our minister now. Michael is worried sick over his wife's whereabouts, and he's determined to put a stop to her irresponsible behavior. The best part of domestic discipline is what has happened emotionally between this long-time married couple. This is really strange, as it seems the husband turned a non-consensual sex fetish into his personal gratification and not his wifes, while hurting her mentally and physically through some crazy fabricated punishment, Lets treat adults like adult and lets avoid the temptation of playing the role of God.. The professionals in DV services are trained (or should be trained!) Webchristian domestic discipline; Corset Waist Training; Deep Thoughts; Exercise and Chocolate; Fiction; maintenance; marriage; my submissiveness; Orgasm Control; Pierced Nipples; Punishment; Spanking; Submission; swingers We have no set rules so to speak. If it makes it hotter for them to mix in some faith? And lastly the women whose fathers are not involved in these domestic discipline Lifestyles for your father to applaud your husband for laying his hands on you thats not normal none of this is normal. Lydia00, Eph 5:21 does not contradict what follows. Rock, if you want to read about domestic violence, read about Jamin Wright, a good-ole boy from Doug Wilsons church in Moscow ID. You need to be more Christ-like, Jesus never told a woman that she had to be subject to any man, have sex with her husband against her will. My father could sit on his self worshipping bottom the whole time my mother suffered through pregnancy and birth, he did not have to dread horrific genital pain, he sure got a thrill that she did. its the samething a guy who punched his wife in the face would say. When I got older and was being bullied or harassed by other men or women, you know who defended me? Whats the problem if certain people want a superior/inferior relationship? And why do that one, and not the other, need it? We were told that it was biblicalto spank our teenagers, even ones who were overlegal adulthood. I wanted to know how did Lauren get from the point where wife spanking was considered normal to the place where she said, THIS IS WRONG it is ABUSE!. I see no other difference in how these wives are treated compared to how they were treated as daughters. Justice is not a consensual relationship. He teaches us that God made women because our husbands needed a obedient helpmate , God made women to serve and obey without question our husbands. I will say this. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, and you are unwilling to come to Me (John 5.39, 40). Male headship is followed all over the world.. (LogOut/ Either they think you are into some sort of kinky lifestyle or they think you are a mindless doormat. Send in your testimonials! Id like to find a pastor like that in my area. Often, when we face tough decisions, I will offer input and SUGGESTIONS. [redacted] said Jamin is very controlling. You all seem to be very sincere people, but you also seem to be very dangerous ones, because you have decided to be driven by ideology and intolerance. And if they fail to submit or they fail in other duties as wives they willingly accept Domestic Discipline. Jamin usually keeps a pistol under the mattress and one on top of the refrigerator. But through this, the emotional, physical, and mental connections between us are incredible, especially the physical. It seems that both of these components make it much more likely for a woman to be the victim of domestic violence/wife spanking. You get all edgy. Aspire to knowledge and aspire to love, declare yourself ignorant and humble and you will find justice and wisdom for God does not reveal himself to arrogant people and this is why you are in darkness on this matter. This subject makes me sick. The Bible says that husbands are to submit to their wives, Eph 5:21: Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. Gods judgments from Gen 3:14 3:17 set matters straight, and gave the man more work into the bargain. Its heavy shepherding gone mad. Phone your appropriate holine and they will be able to refer you to DV services in your local area. This practice is about two consenting adults who are free to leave the relationship at any time, period. Here is the link: https://spiritualsoundingboard.com/2016/06/30/wife-asks-for-input-regarding-her-husband-who-paddles-her/. Calling it just a spanking in some ways covers up what is going on, I think. :^). Doe you think she have to obey him then as well? BDSM is not recommended for all Christians, but safe and responsible BDSM has the potential to enhance intimacy and strengthen marriages. The Bible says I must obey my husband in all things, our minister always repeats this in our bible study. And then after that we will spend several articles looking at cultural views of domestic discipline in America before the modern age. It seems the only difference between the role of a father and the role of new husband is that the new husband gets sexual privileges and now has someone to cook and clean for him, and bear children. I write about marital discipline in a Christian home at my website spankingyourwife.wordpress.com. I come to believe that spanking is needed to protect the marriage. Im very grateful to Lauren for her e-mailand being willing to shed more light into this abusive practice so that we can have more understanding of what she and many others are going through. No, Bike Bubba, by role play I meant dressing up as a type, not as another person. Im a happy happy wife! Anonymous, experience project.com, 12. And there goes the bitter card. If you only have tolerance for lines of thinking that you are happy to tolerate, then you are intolerant. Because my Jack is taking the lead. Under our Resources tab at A Cry For Justice we have a page with links for Hotlines: Does the power differential matter? This may help you win a popularity contest in this community, but if you really are a spiritual man and aspire to justice, I would quote Proverbs 28:5 : Evil men do not understand justice, But those who seek the LORD understand all things. Carrie, what conclusion did Pat Robertson come up with to help this husband? Junia was a female apostle who taught men. And so many selfish, heartless, sexually sadistic Areal Castro centric Christian men are telling women they cant refuse their husbands sex. Wife Spanking, Christian Domestic Discipline, Domestic Violence *** You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered. There is no longer a power struggle between two people who both want to be in charge. It is a confession of our dependence on one another and an acceptance of our natural roles.Do you submit to the wishes of your boss? Whatever you want. Meanwhile, what Jesus called the two most important commandments are completely ignored. Uh oh. Im over 40 years of age and in charge of my own life. This 3. However you are not free to force your religious views on others. Advocating for women being in leadership is asking for equality and for what the Bible teaches; that is not feminism.. But yes, you do have the right to not contact them at all, or seriously restrict it. Did you know the APA approves gender reassignment surgery as the best way to HELP a male patient who reports his inner self is really female? Personally, I read 1 Corinthians 7 render due affection to indicate that if one spouse does something to render the other unwilling or unable to do so, that is sin. I started going to their church and before long was a very active member. So while I believe that Biblically speaking, married couples do have a great amount of freedom in how and when they make love, that does not extend to humiliation and injury. Jesus said to the Pharisees, His wife is swatting him with a riding crop because he failed to be a good pony and iron her clothes. and going through Judges 4:9 all the way to Eph 5:23 and 1Tim 2:12). I wish there wasnt a knee-jerk reaction to the word submissive but unfortunately there is such a stigma. saying she needs to feel the pain to remind her to whom she belongs and forcing her to do rigorous housework and chores. Many want a "guide", a manual to show them how to do it. For anyone wanting many more articles, and explanations, and rebuttals to the sexist views Its the word of God:. As a right wing, social conservative, I disagree with most secular left wing feminism. She has has been hospitalized many times due to his abuse but somehow he has used his position and influence to escape legal action each time. I have always made a point of emphasizing how much I love and respect him for being our HOH and not falling into the trap that other men do. They employ demands for forgiveness in a manner that makes forgiveness the Evangelical Christian F word. You choose to call it domestic discipline. By consent is OK, we read. Now, some Christian ladies are happy to accept the term feminism and apply it to themselves, so long as it is defined as something like the belief that women are equal to men and should be treated with respect by all. Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. I understand it from a sexual stand point but to say because it gets your husbands frustration put and women need it so they release their emotions, that sounds like straight abuse. Because, Julie Anne, is that not what you feel about any woman who wants to give her husband the authority to lead, let alone any women who would quite like to be disciplined or feel powerless in the bedroom?. How about at your own home growing up, was your mother spanked? Trouble is, he will not be able to help himself. These women are most of the time mature, mentally strong and educated. Do you have any children? I think he made his point. If every Pastor was like the one Susie writes about , the one who taught her husband how to be a good leader, there would be far fewer broken homes. At first I couldnt believe that women were advocating being spanked by their husbands and submitting fully to their authority. I would however disagree with the notion that these laws were well-inspired. Dont just say my position is not Biblical, argue it, prove it from scripture, of course. Change). Thats in the Bible. No woman wants to be slapped around, and certainly not because it has anything to do with not being able to find a macho man to date. maybe a directory of churches and communities, that still get it, would help . These three core values are essential: Communication, Consent, & Compassion. Thanks to a suggestion and my loving HOHs (head of households) permission it was a test spank. He spanked his wife so he could get the demons out and to stop the bad behavior which he labeled as narcissism. Jamin then stated, I swear by anything, I did not grab her throat. When it comes to twisting, and even mistranslating, Scripture it is amazing how [s]ome people believe with great fervor preposterous things that just happen to coincide with their self-interest. Coleman v. CIR (791 F.2d 68 at 69 (7th Cir. I have traveled to Africa, Asia, and many parts of the world. Modern psychology approves a surgeon cutting off a guys penis, surgically creating a fake vagina, and will then prescribe estrogen hormones for the dude to look like a lady. If accusations of anger are routinely hurled as thought stoppers by Christian tyrants everywhere, just think how effective wolf must think it will have been to accuse you of rage. General: Dont like scripture when it disagrees with your prejudices, you guys, do you? Does anyone have advice? Anonymous, christianddgroup.typepad.com, 13. It mush be nice to be self righteous dont you think. I debated putting this in the Godly ladies' thread but decided that I would risk my reputation to be thought of as forward because this is just too good to keep from men. There is no, Well you missed a load of laundry, or The dishes are dirty type spanks in our home. A Lone Voice, your voice will be really lonely in the SSB doghouse if you keep up with the condescending remarks. Yesterdays post at ACJF, http://cryingoutforjustice.com/2015/07/03/a-typical-characteristic-of-an-abuser-he-never-stops-trying/, addresses this very phenomenon: It is not surprising that abusers are accusers. How are you doing now? She knew her Bible inside out, she just keeps quoting the Old Testament over and over. Instead of, you know, just talking to each other. Do not do it in any degrading way; some articles suggest not to spank children with special needs; Im sure thats some kind of grey area When this day happens, the laws will already have been written but will not be enforced or taken seriously anymore, so with many regards, the state of women will be worse than it used to be because theyll be nothing clear they can do to improve their fate. My sexually sadistic father found this to be a great way to sexually torture women and little girls and get away with it. There are millions of non christians practicing domestic discipline, and millions of Christians practicing it too. Many of the verses youve quoted to support your position can be interpreted in more than one way. If nothing else, take that away with you. Previously I have shown Domestic Discipline to be both a Biblical concept as well as a historical practice amongst husbands for thousands of years on my Instagram page @biblicalsexandiscipline and on my blog Biblicalgenderroles.com as well as podcasts I love DD. And being insulting doesnt either. I write about marital discipline in a Christian home at my website spankingyourwife.wordpress.com. We met through church but I dont know what his family background was. Its heartbreaking to read your accounts both here and elsewhere and if you were not in a rage it would be nothing short of miraculous. But you havent provided us with any Scripture that supports your sexist views of women nor raunch, in the form of spanking, in the bedroom. I was also grounded for a month. Christian Domestic Discipline - 09-23-2011, 11:08 PM. They took all her her clothes off in front of everybody and then she got a spanking by the Pastor and her husband with their belts. I am sorry. As far as I can see, no one in this conversation is opposed to the Bible or its teachings, but to your interpretation of them. Im about the only one here who actually quotes scripture. How come society thinks women arent bright enough to dial 911? I got support from friends and it was only when I opened up to them that they helped me see it was wrong. Note: 51% of standard marriages result in divorce DD marriage are maybe 1% Is it better to receive a spanking or get a divorce? And isnt transsexuality also ok? Just as with contracts, there can be duress in various forms, be it a demotion and other forms of financial abuse, bad grades and other forms of potentially public defamation, and just the simple threat of increased violence. http://cryingoutforjustice.com/resources/safety-planning/, And if you havent yet started following our blog A Cry For Justice, we encourage you to do so. In the above examples, we see non-denominational, charismatic/evangelical, Reformed Presbyterian denominations represented. Julie Anne, your visitors are in the main grindingly politically correct and feminist and you are the chief, so much so that you cannot see that the Junia site, advocating for the inclusion of women in leadership in the Christian church and for mutuality in marriage is not the slightest bit feminist and flying in the face of scripture (starting with Genesis 2:18 and 3:16 funny how many great verses in the Bible are 3:16, isnt it? Anderson told Jamin it was strange and very uncommon, for someone to make a statement about having someone walk into their hand hard enough to leave marks on their throat. Its not just me that talks about your husband having authority, Julie Anne. Its quite amazing that she had the strength to leave. Women and little girls suffer through the pain and agony of pregnancy and childbirth. As for the judgment here power imbalance, physically hurting your partner, enjoying hurting your partner, sexualizing the pain, making your partner believe that you are the good and right adult while she is the bad child who deserves punishment, etc. Except the exegeises you have been taught, does contradict. I am the only one who has had the honesty actually to quote passages of scripture. And no, the experiences, however bad, do not nullify the word of God. Was your church part of a particular denomination? Oh brother, that was too obvious. DavidA that. I cant imagine anyone here wants 100pinkapples to suffer from her trauma forever. The whole verse says: 1Cor 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. And it goes on: 1Cor 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. The argument is that its consensual. Finding resolve amidst the dissonance of "churchianity". When we got there he told me that he was fed up with the way I was behaving and I was going to be punished right then. But even then, it is always amazing how Eph 5:21 always ignored. It really is that good. I was in such a relationship for a while. [redacted] has confided in [redacted] and [redacted] about Jamins abusive behavior. It really is that good. And even then, he was only sarcastic in this verse because he was about to perform a miracle before them (the context is that Elijah challenged them to perform a miracle and they failed, they agreed that they would first perform a miracle and that then Elijah would perform one to see who was serving the true God). We need to consider the importance of thecorrelation ofspanking of children through adulthoodand also the transfer of headshipfrom father to new husband when a young lady gets married. There may be role-plays or dressing up. They first have a conversation about Domestic Discipline. And the whole of the Christian Far East. The size difference between you and he is considerable and would be very threatening. For this purpose moderation and tolerance are key. But if some Christians decide a little S&M is good for them? Soooo he is a modern psychologist? Yet you call yourself a child. This 3. are not healthy in a relationship. Jamin was holding up his left hand and motioning his right hand into his left hand as he explained [redacted] actions. [redacted] mentioned a previous domestic violence incident that was reported by [redacted] on 06/01/2011, at approximately 2302 hours. For keep in mind that you are in a very difficult position in that you are promoting an ideology which is against nature. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. I see only 3.5% of Americans traveled overseas in 2009 (when the study was done). Then, they sign this document in the presence of lawyers, and witnesses (friends and/or parents of the woman). You think that your intolerance is acceptable because you are on the side of political correctness. I can see from your posts that you have major issues with men, Some men are sexist, selfish, or abusive pigs. I dont mean their wives are perfect and sinless. In the case you need to discipline your wife while on a voyage, you know you can do so without attracting attention. What Is The Husbands Role In Christian Domestic Discipline? My husband tells me all the time how proud he is of the woman I have become. I am therefore by no mean the spokeman of everything thats being done under the sun (and couldnt even if I wanted it). I am a submissive wife but do not always submit. Anderson saying, Its not common for someone to hurt themselves because theyre desperate for their husbands attention and their husbands not giving them the love they need and so they wack themselves. Now ( standard marriage) she refused to wash the until tomorrow as a result of this and her attitude the marriage is over. Im sure not everyone will agree with me, but in light of common sense and Jesus character, its what makes sense to me. 10 Things Every Christian Husband MustUnlearn, Give Your Husband the Gift He Actually Wants forChristmas. I got spanked as a child and so did my brother and we turned out great! . Good intentions yield more good intentions. Honestly I feel like I feel like these testimonials are written by perverts mostly old men who never had have been married or just absolutely disgusting men who are trying to make this normal I dont think these are actually written by real people actually experiencing this mess because quite honestly I would hope if you were that much of a Christian, that much in a head of household relationship your husband would not be comfortable with you describing your sore, red bottom if so he is as much of a pervert as that Pastor was. As far as your point is made. You simply cannot say that as the visitors at my site are widely diverse. I wonder if we could have the connection. The site must be rubbing off on me. However, this is nothing more than intolerance even if you think you mean well. Always portraying women as feeble-minded helpless victims is the worst kind of infantilization. It took such a long time because that line had been blurred from growing up and then being married. Interesting. While social sciences are a useful tool, you perfectly demonstrate how they can be used as a convenient tool to outlaw deranging opinions and lifestyles by justifying the move by supposed facts. I get the feeling that LV may be a man trying to pass itself off as a woman. Anyway. But to broaden that out and say that no woman should ever be spanked tramples on individual conscience. Michael is worried sick over his wife's whereabouts, and he's determined to put a stop to her irresponsible behavior. English Common Law said that wives were the property of their husbands. Ben and I were miserable and the pastor at his church was no help, so we went to the pastor of my old church and he and his wife were very helpful in instructing us in proper CDD. What was your parents response about the spanking? Those laws included things that happened in the bedroom between consenting adults. Sometimes Ben thinks I need to be spanked everyday, when I forget that I am supposed to be the submissive one. The article was popular with over 600 comments. I cry easily and he stopped the second I started to cry. We continue to call it abuse, despite the fact that it happens between two consenting* adults, and we continue to prosecute those teachers who abuse their students. Anne Garboczi Evans, that is terrible! I love them but our relationship is often strained. But just like a chocolate addict will eat carob in moments of dire necessity. Such as, not seeing them alone, only meeting in public, and if you need overnight accommodations to see them, NEVER stay at their place or let them stay at yours. Because of his behavior with no rage, just an expectancy of needing to control you, it makes me think this was normal within his background or upbringing. From what I can tell, Jamin remains a member in good standing at Doug Wilsons church. It was just always his open hand on my bottom which made me feel like I could never tell someone else or explain it. BDSM is not recommended for all Christians, but safe and responsible BDSM has the potential to enhance intimacy and strengthen marriages. Dont just believe what an individual survivor tells you: though survivors have much wisdom based on their own experiences, their own experiences may not be generalisable to others completely, and this applies ESPECIALLY in regards to legal options. Are you insisting that your reading of these passages is the only possible correct one? She has been assured by her family that even if she were able to successfully facilitate legal action and prison time for her husband and father, that other members of their community would come after her. Im not a 15 year old kid still living under my fathers and mothers authority. And people, please take seriously my point about not thinking of other folk when you are in bed. Yes, Im guilty of being obscure at times. Oh, and if lonely wolf comes here and puts you down like he has done to others, if he comes abusing you by accusing you, we will know that he is just one more supposed Christian who has elected to do the devils work where you are concerned. Were you homeschooled or was homeschooling prominent in your church? Serving Kids: Lets get this straight. I was too worked up to explain. So what you hear from a survivor in one State or one County or one Country, may not necessarily apply in your friends case. Instead, they wanted to know what I had done wrong to need to be punished and felt that I had abandoned my wedding vows when I left him. Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. I shall expect some racist comments. _Benevolent sexism: Men who open doors for women can be as sexist as those who are rude to them, study finds_. And I was told that since I was acting immaturely, this was the consequence. But you dont know whether shes a Christian. I dont look at the guy next to me smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer and just because I understand that cigarettes and alcohol are self-destructive assume that they put significant thought into deciding to start. Thank you for writing and shedding light on another form of domestic abuse that doesnt get talked about very much. There is a judge and there is a criminal, the judge proclaims a sentence against the criminal which is carried out. (Do you know the difference between them?). Im not a Jew living in Israel in 5,000 B.C. Glad that I could help. When it comes to twisting, and even mistranslating, Scripture it is amazing how [s]ome people believe with great fervor preposterous things that just happen to coincide with their self-interest. Coleman v. CIR (791 F.2d 68 at 69 (7th Cir. I grew up in a home that practiced CDD, my mom was no stranger to dads strap that he kept on a hook is his study. I dont know if my Mom was ever spanked. Time to go. I read someone say they did have to obey, even in that, because she is to obey in EVERYTHING. The notion of automatic mental vulnerability and the basically mandatory victim status of the woman. It didnt impress Jesus. Our families, and some of our friends think we are nuts, me mostly, for living this way, but I can honestly say that the 10 years of our marriage I am most happy knowing that I can at any moment end up crying with a sore bottom over my husbands lap. I knew at seventeen that I would rather be dead than married to a Christian man. I get two on Sunday, one in the morning before worship, and one in the evening before bible study. Following this lifestyle that you have described has turned us around completely. He has already had too much of your life. But unlike the "Cry U.S.E." But intolerance is intolerance, and here you are intolerant against religious freedom. Change). and going through Judges 4:9 all the way to Eph 5:23 and 1Tim 2:12). My suggestion that the word forgiveness gets employed as an F word equivalent is not original to me.

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